Houckster

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 6:35:42 PM
CARRANCO writes: All Ovomit regulations will soon be eliminated. It is nonsensical to be making more at this late date. ______ I think "Ovomit" is a reference to the current president of the United States. Obviously there is brain malfunction here.
Hopefully the cost to repair CARRANCO's brain damage will be included in ObamaCare.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:03:30 PM
Yes, of course. Just do as you please on your leased federal land!!! Standards and regulations are for 'all others'.
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giraffefan

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:47:06 PM
Here's to a healthy environment.
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PDQBlues

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 6:51:46 PM
Oh, what a surprise. These corporations what to steal federal and Indian lands to make money at the expense of the health and well-being of the people who live there.
Keep those regulations in place until we can trust these corporations to do the right thing (which will happen when hell freezes over).
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tstoney

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Ogden
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 4:09:09 PM
Great.
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carranco

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 1:55:00 PM
All Ovomit regulations will soon be eliminated. It is nonsensical to be making more at this late date.
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jiml1965

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Harrisburg
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 12:45:38 PM
ok
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geezrtek

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:03:15 AM
Stop or even pause in making rules and regulations?
Good Luck with that.
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mdotson

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:46:07 AM
More regulations! yuck!
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DeeLA

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:21:24 AM
This is somethin that could have been an expected action of the industry.
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foggiest1

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:19:35 AM
sigh
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condé

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:18:15 AM
government.... I won't say more!!!
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Lologogo

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:11:19 AM
that's cuz they want to pollute the heck out of this world and not have to pay any fines
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chyguy3

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Wyoming
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:08:26 AM
Forget about Ken Salazar getting anything done, he's too busy running around in his 10 gallon cowboy hat.
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Tekkersmom57

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:06:50 AM
Perfect wording, "ethanol_is_bad"!
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:56:15 AM
Yet another case of LAWYERS trying to FORCE intelligent folks top follow rules that are dumb.
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032946

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:53:56 AM
OK
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q2

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:52:37 AM
ok
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ethanol_is_bad

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Boise
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:51:19 AM
There needs to be a balance of red tape and business opportunity.
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DJRIO

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Miami
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:50:19 AM
just standardize the fracking . let go back to work.
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curlypooh

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:50:00 AM
ok
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hok

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:49:02 AM
√
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Blazer197

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:48:00 AM
Oh my god!!!
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Indy1

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Quad Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:47:51 AM
Mabe this will cause hybrid prices to go down
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bullfrog69

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:47:51 AM
Let'em do what ever tha hell they want to and let us do the same, what ever tha hell we want to!
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Houckster

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:46:54 AM
This article is full of hyperbole and should be taken with a massive grain of salt.
While shale and fracking have been around for some time, the aggressive nature of current fracking and the substantial evidence that energy companies are willing to risk the lives and welfare of the people living near fracking activity is well documented.
Big Oil, has always been disposed to believe that their welfare is the welfare of the country despite the concerns of those whose lives are affect by their operations.
As for IPA's claim that states throughout their history of regulating fracking operations have not "deemed" actions proposed by the Bureau of Land Management as necessary, what we have here is pure flatulence. A state legislature can be compromised by an industry that has the money to buy off key legislators. Keeping the federal government out of these issues is common sense because it's much easier to buy off a legislature or two than it is to buy off the whole country though they are continually trying. And when they succeed as they did during the Bush administration, we have things like the Deepwater Horizon disaster.
The federal government has the responsibility to protect the welfare of the US citizen from corporate greed as it has many, many times before. It also has the resources necessary to determine what safety issues need to be resolved before operations can commence or continue.
Most Americans want cheap energy and they want government to get involved in corporate affairs only as much as necessary. Fine. But with environmentally sensitive issues like fracking, the need for care is evident and this is something the Hard Right will dispense with first because the welfare of Corporate America is more important to them than the welfare of the US citizen.
[Edited by: Houckster at 9/11/2012 10:49:28 AM EST]
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rippertoo

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:46:51 AM
Whatever.
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eye-spy

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:46:30 AM
Ditto...JoeKR
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ggg452

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:45:57 AM
interesting...
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:44:39 AM
Lost2009: Good point!
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Don20

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:43:49 AM
"The Bureau of Land Management's proposed rule on hydraulic fracturing of wells on federal and Indian lands is unnecessary, excessive and requires actions that no state currently regulating oil and gas production deems necessary, based on their decades of regulatory experience," said IPAA and WEA in the letter.
Anymore the word hydraulic fracturing, is a HOT subject....
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nwhawk

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:42:35 AM
Time will tell.
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hwmillerster

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:42:27 AM
The oil industry should be liable for damages they cause; otherwise, the government should stay out of their way.
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LostAgain2009

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New Mexico
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:40:34 AM
"based on their decades of regulatory experience" Considering fracking technology is only years old, not decades, the oil industries arguments are full of hot air. The extraction industries have resisted every environmental law ever enacted under one guise or another. Having worked in or around oil and mining industries for 20 years I've learned to trust nothing they say.
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boldrph

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Topeka
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:40:17 AM
soon they'll come to frack your town
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treehood

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:39:19 AM
I do want us to capture more of the NG that is currently going to waste as burnoff.
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JimL1

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:39:12 AM
Read this weeks Science News. Scientific study results report -- Activities associated with fracking connected to contaminated well water, contaminated aquifers, Explosions due to methane in homes, earthquakes, and more. It is no longer just the environmentalist nut jobs.
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babyjudy

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:39:08 AM
Government always knows best???
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Diesel_Ram

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:38:58 AM
To bad.
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CHEAPERBETTER

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:38:54 AM
No rules are needed
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unicornpmb

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:38:16 AM
Some rules are needed.
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heydano67

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California
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:37:58 AM
I know we can trust the companies to do what is best on their own, right?
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laurash01

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:36:47 AM
Anything to sell more gas
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jtfftj

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:36:23 AM
Obozo fighting back. Don't worry, he'll be gone soon.
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dad2two

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:35:53 AM
Sounds like government efficiency at work. Not a good thing.
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nanu4u21

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:35:23 AM
ok
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rasprout

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:34:58 AM
Who is right here, the fracking groups or those against it...
Stop the propaganda and start the actual facts...
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Topless2012

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:34:46 AM
What is the truth?
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RAKARWOWSKI

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:33:16 AM
Fracking bad!
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Ready Eddie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 9:32:59 AM
we need better information.
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