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Keystone XL: How Canada’s pipeline splits the U.S.

The Star -- WHITEWATER, MONTANA—Three years ago, when the Canadian pipeline people first came round Bob Math’s cattle ranch in northernmost Montana, the conversation was brittle.

The TransCanada emissaries were pleasant enough. But it soon became apparent their Keystone XL pipeline was more than a proposal. They were talking fait accompli.

“It wasn’t a request, it was an announcement: ‘This is what we’re going to do on your land,’” Math says of that initial overture to trench through his 600-head Black Angus operation tucked up tight on the Saskatchewan border.

Fast-forward to 2012 and Math is onside, having palmed a TransCanada cheque to seal the deal. And so the Canadians have this most important of neighbours — the first one on the American side — on board. And thousands more besides.

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Submitted Jun 10, 2012 By: aservant

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 4:58:18 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Never was intended to bring the refined products to US markets. Much of TransCanada's talk about jobs are window dressing to get ppl onto their side. Already showing proof that there are far more lies behind it, like the claim that US jobs would be created with the building. Well, much of the pieces have already been assembled in India. Only few jobs are needed to assemble the pieces to make the pipeline.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,414 Points:2,225,650 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 1:10:24 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse It's a key pipeline to allow exporting more North American oil to other parts of the world.
1006 Champion Author Birmingham Posts:1,105 Points:1,351,590 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 5:44:23 AM Ignore 1006 Report Abuse this is a key pipeline for the oil available to us in the usa without dependency on the mideast.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,595 Points:1,201,110 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jun 12, 2012 11:04:35 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Good article Aservant...thanks for [posting!
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,976 Points:593,835 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:42:27 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,865 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:20:02 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Keep dreaming, milespergallon. That oil isn't for us. China already made the down payment and is just waiting for delivery.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,865 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:18:15 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse You realize that it's the height of hyprocrisy when Republicans that are so in favor of individual liberty are more than happy to use eminent domain to push through a pipeline that nobody who actually lives there wants. Where's your freedom and liberty now?
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,876 Points:2,127,605 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:24:10 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse ok
cmsense Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,358 Points:165,345 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:19:31 PM Ignore cmsense Report Abuse You could attempt to educate individuals that this pipeline will only benefit Pig Oil and the Chinese market, OR just run into a brick wall headfirst.Same difference.
KAR120CSII Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,157 Points:616,720 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:16:49 PM Ignore KAR120CSII Report Abuse War of 1812 revenge? Thanks PM Harper for helping Canada-US relations.
miser709 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,268 Points:1,066,325 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:03:42 PM Ignore miser709 Report Abuse This is a BAD idea.
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,719 Points:813,230 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:57:56 PM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse Get it done. We are long past time to get this project moving.
egd Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,077 Points:2,116,250 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:56:58 PM Ignore egd Report Abuse bad idea
Lerxst17 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,010 Points:393,150 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:54:37 PM Ignore Lerxst17 Report Abuse Romney will make this happen.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,830 Points:1,608,250 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:54:02 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse The Keystone XL pipeline would drive up gas prices in the Midwest. It has the potential for disastrous consequences in the event of a leak. Mining the tar sands would devastate a huge swatch of the Canadian subarctic, all in order to move low energy, trash oil across the US to be exported via the Gulf. It is a stupid idea from A to Z.
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,779 Points:1,838,475 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:51:10 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse MahopacJack, I agree with you.
59glide All-Star Author New Haven Posts:855 Points:1,045,490 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:50:24 PM Ignore 59glide Report Abuse lets go
eswi Champion Author Madison Posts:2,520 Points:679,155 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:49:00 PM Ignore eswi Report Abuse OK
rickone All-Star Author Detroit Posts:530 Points:389,810 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:48:55 PM Ignore rickone Report Abuse Interesting - Thanks for posting.
darkknight1 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:4,315 Points:891,835 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:47:14 PM Ignore darkknight1 Report Abuse more fuel for the debate.
96sc1 Champion Author El Paso Posts:8,517 Points:1,367,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:44:18 PM Ignore 96sc1 Report Abuse I'm against it because all of its measurements are in metric
twinfanMN Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,610 Points:452,240 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:44:15 PM Ignore twinfanMN Report Abuse Do it but safely
MahopacJack Champion Author New York Posts:7,999 Points:1,579,755 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:43:47 PM Ignore MahopacJack Report Abuse Get 'er done! The Tree Huggers have made a big deal over normal business.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:14,849 Points:1,436,370 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:43:23 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse I don't like thugs whether they work for the EPA or an oil company.
radiorumor Champion Author Texas Posts:2,792 Points:749,860 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:38:25 PM Ignore radiorumor Report Abuse Money in the palm is all it takes
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,902 Points:1,570,980 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:38:12 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse build it!
amteb All-Star Author Toledo Posts:513 Points:102,865 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:37:57 PM Ignore amteb Report Abuse just build it, it will happen at some point ne way
sammy518 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,589 Points:539,790 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:37:21 PM Ignore sammy518 Report Abuse looks like money changes everything, even principles
big_mac64 Champion Author Tennessee Posts:10,593 Points:1,485,590 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:36:09 PM Ignore big_mac64 Report Abuse boy am I tired of Keystone...just do it already!!!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,902 Points:1,570,980 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:33:44 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse build it
nd73 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,071 Points:487,880 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:32:17 PM Ignore nd73 Report Abuse Everyone's on board -- except the turd in the White House!
GGAlbo Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,242 Points:1,881,705 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:31:08 PM Ignore GGAlbo Report Abuse lets build it!
Ahking Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,492 Points:600,445 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:29:06 PM Ignore Ahking Report Abuse Do it with care.
checkitnow Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,016 Points:567,570 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:28:22 PM Ignore checkitnow Report Abuse build it!
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,134 Points:1,858,805 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:24:47 PM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse Just one of many pipelines throughout the US.
Victoriajines Rookie Author Maine Posts:8 Points:4,610 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:22:35 PM Ignore Victoriajines Report Abuse It's all about the money, and that's how it will always be. People are greedy, countries are too.
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,800 Points:1,426,750 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:19:51 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse Dig there. Dig now...
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,885 Points:1,917,300 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:17:45 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse This is all about getting their golden goose to market, and that market is in Asia! We already have all the oil we can use here at the Wood River Refinery that processes the tar sands oil. ConocoPhillips got a contract deal for $15 a barrel from what I heard. They refine this into gasoline that has cost us $4 a gallon. We get no break in savings just because the refinery has a pipeline from Canada and can buy the oil cheap! Illinois has some of the highest priced gasoline in the nation! You people that think a pipeline to the Gulf will make gasoline cheaper are in for a rude awakening! Many on this forum gripe that China may get the oil if we don't allow it to cut America in half. China is going to get the oil anyway if it comes across America to the Gulf for export!
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,780 Points:814,335 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:17:27 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Very enlightening article...
jimmy544 Champion Author Boston Posts:4,074 Points:649,855 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:16:23 PM Ignore jimmy544 Report Abuse This is a cautionary story. Keystone is a bad deal for the good folks of Nebraska
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,362 Points:874,905 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:15:47 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse President Romney will approve it...he understands the importance of energy to this nation's economy.
WebGabe Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,349 Points:492,620 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:14:59 PM Ignore WebGabe Report Abuse Ok.
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,724 Points:1,904,360 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:13:29 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse Would be nice if we had the oil
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,544 Points:1,508,130 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:13:24 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse Cannot figure out the politics of this one
itsjustme719 All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:611 Points:596,100 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:13:13 PM Ignore itsjustme719 Report Abuse Canadian oil should stay in Canada. Our fuel prices are much higher than in the US. The only people that benefit from this are the oil companies.
DutchTreatMI Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,295 Points:747,915 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:12:53 PM Ignore DutchTreatMI Report Abuse Hopefully this can be worked out for the good of everyone involved.
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,125 Points:1,879,670 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:11:37 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse Whate ever oil whats oil gets.
PTW-Gas Veteran Author Allentown Posts:334 Points:808,370 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:10:51 PM Ignore PTW-Gas Report Abuse With the election starting to look doubtful, the President might just say he's for the pipeline. Unfortunately, it won't help much if he doesn't allow any new refineries.
Bonito Champion Author Dayton Posts:15,728 Points:3,003,895 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:08:53 PM Ignore Bonito Report Abuse GET RID OF THE KEYSTONE AND GET OFF OIL ASAP! WE ARE BEING RAPED!
rf6480 Champion Author Miami Posts:1,533 Points:544,610 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:08:49 PM Ignore rf6480 Report Abuse it's jobs, and lower prices, hopefully. If it's going underground and people get compensated for it I say go for it. But why is it going to be tax free??? [Edited by: rf6480 at 6/10/2012 11:09:20 PM EST]